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« on: July 03, 2008, 11:10:08 AM »

Has anyone dealt with:
http://www.thewheelsmith.net/
(I found them through an ad in Street Rodder magazine while waiting to pick up my brother-in-law at the airport.)

What does 5x114.3 equal to in inches?
Does 5x4.5 fit correctly?
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 11:47:04 AM »

Unless the formula that calculates the conversion is totally wrong, 114.3mm=4.5000in

source: http://www.worldwidemetric.com/metcal.htm

Don't see why it shouldn't fit. Also, you gotta remember the offset... scionlife has a few threads that mention offset, depending on what size wheel/tire combo you go with.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 12:32:06 PM »

I called and left a message with them earlier.  I plan to ask about offset.
As several seem interested in wheels of this type, I'll report back what I am told.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 12:49:41 PM »

I called and left a message with them earlier.  I plan to ask about offset.
As several seem interested in wheels of this type, I'll report back what I am told.
Please do.. a few of the Ford wheels caught my attention Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 01:09:52 PM »

Well . . .
they would physically fit the lugs, but would have offset and brake clearance issues, as they are designed for rear-wheel drive (and drums brake) cars.  They made some for PT Cruisers and HHRs, but have had serious vibration issues he said were inherent in alteration of that wheel design for a higher offset, front wheel drive vehicle, esp. one with disc brakes.

So, no dice on those.
Anyone know of somewhere else that might work?

So far, it looks like the "Spider" caps might be the only "hot rod" option.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2008, 04:58:14 PM »

Well, at least you gotta give them props for not trying to sell you something that wouldn't work, and being so honest with you.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2008, 05:31:24 PM »

Yeah bob did the conversion for you but I have already figured out, by trying to use jeep rims on my scion(not gonna happen), that 5x114.3 is exactly the same as 5x4.5. 

Also I saw a PT with some cool looking caps today that gave it a retro look. I will see if I can find them.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 05:52:56 PM »

Never mind I just read the other thread about hubcaps. The ones called smoothies are the ones I saw but you already said they don't fit. The spider caps I had actually though about doing, or maybe going witht he spinner style center caps might be cool as well. Oh and I had a thought the other day when working on the xB. The ugly yellow color of the spare rim. That would actually look kinda retro with chrome center cap and ring if you had all four wheels colored  the same.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2008, 11:23:22 PM »

Now there's a thought, eviljack... 4 yellow donuts rofl
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 01:25:17 AM »

hey guys according to my scion dealer and my research no center caps fit the stock steelies. We did figure out that a fence post cap fit them perfect thought. I can get more info on that if needed.


So far the only thing that we found to fit the steelies are the 5 lug spiders, which will also keep your breaks from over heating unlike the moonies which will get hot. You could maybe also go with the chrome beauty ring to. My dealer is curently looking for over options for the hotrod/woody look and says he will start carrying them if he finds them as we arent the only ones looking.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 09:21:21 AM »

Yep.
Center caps require flanged made into the inner ridge of the rim.  The STOCK Scion one doesn't have one.  So, I was looking for Steelies that did.  Unfortunately, the ones made are for near zero offset Hot Rods and won't work on our xBs. IF I could find a steelie with flanges that would fit, one could use center caps.
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 07:56:12 PM »

Here I found this. Maybe you can buy a steelie wheel off of one of these type of cars that will fit a center cap or even those smooties.

http://www.subydude.com/parts/wheelfitmentguide2.php
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 10:18:14 PM »

That would be:
5X114.3 TRUCKS
Dodge
Dakota 2WD (1991-1993)    
Ford
Bronco 11 (1982-1983)    
Grand
Cherokee (1993-1998)    
Mazda
B-Series (1996-2003)    Navajo (1991-1994)
Mercury
Grand Marquis Wagon (1988-1991)    Sable (1988-2003)
Toyota
Pickup 2WD (1969-1994)    Tacoma 2WD (1995-2003)

5X114.3 Cars
Acura
Integra Type R (1997-2001)    RSX (2002+)
CL (1998-2000)    Legend (1991-1995)
TL 3.2 (1996+)    
Chrysler
Caravan (1999-2003)    LHS (1995-2003)
Chrysler Sebring (1995-2003)    
Dodge
Stealth RS Turbo (1994-1996)    Stratus (2002-2003)
Talon(1990-1998)    Avenger (1995-2003)
Ford    
Ford Probe(1989-1997) Hub bore 59.6    
Honda    
Prelude (1997-2001)    Honda CRV (1997-2003)
Civic Si Hatchback (2002+)    
Infinity
Infinity I35 (2000-2003)    Infinity I30 (1996-1998)
Infinity G35 (2004+)    
Lexus
ES300 (1997-2003)    GS300 (1993-2003)
GS400 (1998-2002)    GS430 (1998-2003)
LS400 (1990-1994)    IS300 (2000+)
Mazda
929 (1988-1994)    626 (1988+)
Protégé (2002+)    Protégé 5 (2002+)
Mazda3 (2003+)    MP3 (2002+)
Mazda6 (2003+)    Mazda5 (2005+)
MX-6 (1988-1992)    RX-7 GXL GTU Turbo II (1986-1992)
Mazda RX-7 (1993-1996)    
Mitsubishi
Diamante (1991-1996)    Eclipse (1989+)
Galant (1997+)    3000GT SL (1991-2000)
Lancer Evolution (2004+)    
Nissan
Altima (2002+)    Maxima (1989-2003)
240SX SE (1995-1997)    350Z (2004+)
Toyota
MR-2 (1990-1995)    Supra (1986-1996) including Turbo
Camry Solara (1999-2003)    Camry (1992+)

I'm not sure any of those came with 16 inch or higher steel rims that had center caps, rather than full cover caps.

Yet, good to know what matches, in case someone like another make/model's stock rims!
(That list would make a good sticky post in the rims section . . . hint, hint)
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2008, 10:55:59 PM »

ok here you go.

http://newscionxb.com/wheels_tires/other_cars_with_same_bolt_pattern-t1409.0.html
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