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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2008, 08:53:02 PM »

Ok, I called 2 different Sears Auto Stores. They both told me the same thing.

1. The TPMS can be re-used (they are sensors attached to or inside the valve stems.. I wasn't quite sure of what they told me on that concept.)
2. Up to $25 for programming. For all 4, not each.

I don't know if they'd do it for rims not purchased at Sears, but it never hurts to ask.

If Sears will do it, I am pretty sure Wal-Mart and maybe K-Mart will as well. And probably Pep-Boys and other chain-store tire outlets. And all likely for a lot less than $80.00 per tire.

Yes, but keep in mind that if you purchase wheels & tires that already come balanced and mounted, you're not just paying for sensor reprogramming when you go to get them taken out of your old tires and into your new ones, you're paying for:

  • Original Tire Dismount from rims
  • Original Tire Valve Stem Replacement
  • Remount Original Tires to rims
  • Dismount new tires from new rims
  • Valve stem removal on new rims & installation of sensors
  • Sensor reprogramming to new tire's recommended PSI
  • Mount & Balance new tires to new rims
  • Install new wheels on vehicle

NOTE: By "mount" I mean the act of installing & inflating a tire to a rim; "dismount" is the opposite.

To encompass all of this, when I asked the Toyota service center how much it would be to put my stock sensors in my new rims, they told me I would be charged for mounting/balancing 8 tires, a tire rotation, and reprogramming the sensors.  This is because they don't really have a way of charging otherwise.  The cost was going to be $150 total.  Hence I'm living with the idiot light.
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2008, 09:09:19 PM »

Ok, I called 2 different Sears Auto Stores. They both told me the same thing.

1. The TPMS can be re-used (they are sensors attached to or inside the valve stems.. I wasn't quite sure of what they told me on that concept.)
2. Up to $25 for programming. For all 4, not each.

I don't know if they'd do it for rims not purchased at Sears, but it never hurts to ask.

If Sears will do it, I am pretty sure Wal-Mart and maybe K-Mart will as well. And probably Pep-Boys and other chain-store tire outlets. And all likely for a lot less than $80.00 per tire.

Yes, but keep in mind that if you purchase wheels & tires that already come balanced and mounted, you're not just paying for sensor reprogramming when you go to get them taken out of your old tires and into your new ones, you're paying for:

  • Original Tire Dismount from rims
  • Original Tire Valve Stem Replacement
  • Remount Original Tires to rims
  • Dismount new tires from new rims
  • Valve stem removal on new rims & installation of sensors
  • Sensor reprogramming to new tire's recommended PSI
  • Mount & Balance new tires to new rims
  • Install new wheels on vehicle

NOTE: By "mount" I mean the act of installing & inflating a tire to a rim; "dismount" is the opposite.

To encompass all of this, when I asked the Toyota service center how much it would be to put my stock sensors in my new rims, they told me I would be charged for mounting/balancing 8 tires, a tire rotation, and reprogramming the sensors.  This is because they don't really have a way of charging otherwise.  The cost was going to be $150 total.  Hence I'm living with the idiot light.

hey Ross

actually, $150 for that is a good price from a dealer - i think mine charges $40 for a high speed balance on 4 wheels alone...
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 10:55:02 AM »

In response to Ross, yes , those charges should also be taken into consideration, but that's not what this thread was about.
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2008, 02:38:26 AM »

In response to Ross, yes , those charges should also be taken into consideration, but that's not what this thread was about.

Yes it is.  The original post says that Geezer is having trouble justifying a $346 price tag for new sensors.  I was trying to explain where some of the cost may have come from, as well as provide the cost I was provided by the Toyota dealership.  Re-use of the factory sensors in the new wheels is a more affordable alternative, an idea that the author of the original post was considering, and a subject that you brought up in your last post.
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2008, 10:58:20 AM »

My main concern is that the worst that can happen by not having sensors in the aftermarket wheels is the "always on" warning light. 

I don't plan to take the sensors out of the factory wheels because I'll use them in winter.  The decision then is whether to pop for a second set of sensors or look at the idiot light from April-October.  Tire Rack's price just gets the sensors in the wheels.  They still need to be programmed, but I was under the impression that programming the sensors is a DIY operation.  Switching sensors from one set of wheels to the other (twice a year) is out of the question.

Based on the feedback from this thread I've pretty much decided to do without the sensors initially, but may add them later if the idiot light really bugs me.  With a graphic design background, I may try a Homer Simpson variation.  I'm also thinking about doing an overlay labelled "Boost", "NOX" or something like that.
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2008, 10:49:00 PM »

Yes it is.  The original post says that Geezer is having trouble justifying a $346 price tag for new sensors.  I was trying to explain where some of the cost may have come from, as well as provide the cost I was provided by the Toyota dealership.  Re-use of the factory sensors in the new wheels is a more affordable alternative, an idea that the author of the original post was considering, and a subject that you brought up in your last post.

Sorry, wrote that late last night and just realized I kinda came off as somewhat of a douche. confused
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2008, 01:25:03 PM »

Hi gang. I wanted to add my two cents here. I will be using the PVC pipe trick when I can justify and afford new tires (when the skidmaster RS-A's wear out). I have the wheels ready to go.

I will create a small PVC pipe capsule with PVC endcaps at each end. Drill a hole in the center of one endcap. It's either 3/8 or 5/8 inch. I forget. Enough to use a rubber valve stem. Toss all four sensors inside the capsule. and seal it shut with PVC cement. using the rubber valve stem, inflate the capsule to 35 PSI. Toss it somewhere in the vehicle. Wallah. No more idiot light. No four new sensors to buy. No dealer reprogramming twice per year. This will however require the use of brain cells to monitor the pressure in your tires on occasion. Dare I say..............think for ourselves. Blasphemy!

I'm not aware of anyone doing this with the Toyota sensors yet, but the Ford guys have been doing this for a while now, with no problems. Just don't blame me for the cavity search when they x-ray the car at the venue and observe the suspicious "device" in the trunk. (Rubber glove snaps on wrist)

Some aftermarket wheels cannot accept our style of sensor, not many, but some. Also, the sensors have a battery inside. I would rather tear apart the PVC capsule to replace batteries, than tear down the wheel tire combo. Good luck.
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2008, 01:45:25 PM »

Hi gang. I wanted to add my two cents here. I will be using the PVC pipe trick when I can justify and afford new tires (when the skidmaster RS-A's wear out). I have the wheels ready to go.

I will create a small PVC pipe capsule with PVC endcaps at each end. Drill a hole in the center of one endcap. It's either 3/8 or 5/8 inch. I forget. Enough to use a rubber valve stem. Toss all four sensors inside the capsule. and seal it shut with PVC cement. using the rubber valve stem, inflate the capsule to 35 PSI. Toss it somewhere in the vehicle. Wallah. No more idiot light. No four new sensors to buy. No dealer reprogramming twice per year. This will however require the use of brain cells to monitor the pressure in your tires on occasion. Dare I say..............think for ourselves. Blasphemy!

I'm not aware of anyone doing this with the Toyota sensors yet, but the Ford guys have been doing this for a while now, with no problems. Just don't blame me for the cavity search when they x-ray the car at the venue and observe the suspicious "device" in the trunk. (Rubber glove snaps on wrist)

Some aftermarket wheels cannot accept our style of sensor, not many, but some. Also, the sensors have a battery inside. I would rather tear apart the PVC capsule to replace batteries, than tear down the wheel tire combo. Good luck.

that is pretty clever - if anyone tries it, please let us know if it works  Smiley
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